Showing posts with label immigration. Show all posts
Showing posts with label immigration. Show all posts

Saturday, July 24, 2010

The FM Renewal: Part 1

I've done it! I made it through the new resident visa renewal process with Mexican Immigration.  I was renewing an FM3, a green booklet usually reviewed, restamped and renewed for another year....but on April 30, 2010, the process for legal residence changed.  I'd been advised in advance that to begin the renewal process you had to complete an application online one month before your visa's expiration date.  I went online exactly one month before my FM3 expired and stumbled my way through the application form....got it half right, and took what information I could to the immigration office the following morning.

I worried all year long about this renewal.  I am financially challenged, and the INM always asks for 3 copies of 3 months of every utility bill, bank account, and document you have.  I had all my copies ready, even the bank statements, that would show I am depositing enough to survive, but wouldn't reflect that pension they expect that I, a "pensionada" am receiving.  The fact is, I won't qualify for my retirement pension OR Social Security until 2015. 

The other worry I had was after all the horrible news I've heard and seen about the treatment of Mexican immigrants in the US, mostly Arizona of course whose governor has gone mad, I was afraid that Mexican Immigration would retaliate by making it impossible for us gringos to renew our residency.  In fact they went the opposite way and made it as easier.

This year you don't need the excessive copies.  I didn't need any copies at all.  The system is amazingly streamlined for renewals.  If a person is applying for a new resident visa I believe they still require all the documentation mentioned above and probably more, and go through the same rigamarole we all used to go through every year at renewal time.  But for the rest of us, it's just a matter of getting through that online application.

Here's how it went for me.  I went to the link online, opted to read it in English, and that opened to a Power Point type picture book of the new wallet sized laminated visas with arrows and nice visual effects. But I don't remember seeing anything actually written in English there.  That was the beginning and end of the English help!  When it comes to filling out the form, you are on your own in Spanish! They give you options, but they are very similar....I tried a few until I processed something. I don't recommend going about it that way, so I am going to post a second blog that walks you through the renewal process.  A few of my friends seem intimidated by the new system, but with a little help and patience....it can be easy. 

I entered the website from Mozilla Firefox, and the INS system is only set up to print out the required forms if you go in through Internet Explorer.  That is one of the things that tripped me up. I filled out the form, clicked "save", got a message in a little box with a confirmation number and I wrote that down. It told me to print out the "solicitud" I'd just completed as well as the "letter".  I X'd out of that little box, couldn't ask the printer to work with that up there, and all I had on my screen was a new empty application! 

So, what do I do? Try again?  I was afraid that if I put myself in there twice it would jam things up in the system, so I completed the app again up UNTIL the save part...and printed that.  I went to INS the next day with my thick file of copies, my FM3 and my Passport, copies of everything I got off their website, and signed in...#41.  When #41 was called, I was given a new yellow number because I HAD been online!  As I waited my turn I watched many people wait for their number to be called only to be given a little piece of paper sending them home to get on the computer and start the process.  Because so many people got little white slips, my  number came up quickly and I went inside the 'yellow number room', where there were two ladies helping customers.  The gal that helped me told me about the Internet Explorer problem, AND that many people have had trouble getting through the process online. There are still a few bugs in the system.  So she took my confirmation number and printed out the solicitud AND the letter.....I gave her my FM3, the solicitud and letters signed, and was given another weblink to check in a week to see if my paperwork was ready.  She was knowledgeable, friendly and efficient.  I was impressed. 

I waited one week and checked, and lo and behold my visa was ready the day after I applied!  I called and made my appointment, went in on the 21st for an 11am appointment and got a little GREEN number...was sent straight to the green-number room!.... got the paper to take to the bank, paid my dues, and returned to INS where my green number got me right back into the 'pink and green number room'. (I have no idea what pink numbers were....I'm on a need to know basis....don't need to know that.) They took my infant sized photos and fingerprints and in a few minutes I walked out with my new resident visa card.  It says I am a Non-Immigrant, Non-Lucrative Rentista, Visitor.....
Second to last step....paying your dues.

Here I am! I'm legal for another year!

The FM Renewal: Part 2

What I've done here is link the Mexican Immigration INM Visa Website, for starters.  Then I have reprinted each page, translated the Spanish - in red an highlighted areas that you have to fill in.  The best way to use this guide would be to either print it or open up another application so you can work your way one line at a time.  Good luck.

Trámites migratorios   Visas


Bienvenido  Welcome

Las autoridades migratorias blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah

Selecciona el país de tu nacionalidad, es necesario para indicarte si tu trámite requerirá o no una visa.
Choose your nationality from the dropdown box.  You must enter a nationality to continue.

País (nacionalidad): ESTADOS UNIDOS DE AMERICA
Selecciona el motivo de tu consulta  Select the motive of your consult

1.Visitar México

2.Vivir en México

3.Protección Internacional

4.Permisos y otros trámites  CLICK HERE on Permits and other Procedures

5.Preguntas frecuentes
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Here is the next step. I have entered into Permisos....
Permisos y Otros Trámites


El gobierno de México, a través del Instituto Nacional de Migración, con el objetivo de garantizar seguridad jurídica   blah blah blah

Below you make another choice to get to the next page.

1.Matrimonio

2.Divorcio

3.Adopción

4.Certificado de Acreditación de Legal Estancia    Certification of Accreditation(?) of Legal Residence. THIS IS THE CHOICE YOU WANT TO MAKE IF YOU ARE RENEWING A CURRENT VISA. 

5.Permiso de Salida y Regreso

6.Expediente Básico

7.Expedición y Reposición de Formas Migratorias

8.Inscripción al Registro Nacional de Extranjeros
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Next page, the quest for legality....
Certificado de Acreditación de Legal Estancia


Si estas realizando algún trámite blah blah blah

¿Tu forma migratoria se encuentra vigente?


1.Si    Is your visa current?  YES.

2.No
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This is the next page that opens up after you click yes above.  It tells you the requirements. 
CONSULTA DE TRÁMITE MIGRATORIO REALIZADA EN LA PÁGINA WEB DEL INSTITUTO NACIONAL DE MIGRACIÓN CON FECHA: 24/Jul/2010


Cédula de consulta  type of consult

Trámite consultado process consulted? (whatever)

Tipo de trámite: Certificado de acreditación de legal estancia This is important. Type of visa. Certificate of legal residence. Keep that in mind when they ask other questions.

Requisitos  Requirements

•Solicitud de trámite. (Formato de estancia) Your application for the visa. CLICK ON "FORMATO DE ESTANCIA" and it takes you to the application you need to fill out.  Read this whole page first though.

•Copia de tu forma migratoria vigente. Copy of your current migratory form (in my case, FM3)

•Comprobante de pago de derechos.  Proof that you paid the dues..which you can't provide until you have done all this other stuff. They give you this paper at your appointment, which you make by phone once you see your confirmation information on the webisite they provide. You go to your appt, they give you the paper, you go to the bank a few blocks away around the corner on Reforma, Banorte, and pay your dues. As soon as you come back with this paper you are good to go....your green number gets you right in and serviced quickly. 

•Escrito firmado por el extranjero en el que manifieste los fines para los cuales requiere el certificado de legal estancia.  This is that letter we have to provide every year. It is supposed to print out for you once you have printed your SAVED APPLICATION.  If you have trouble printing that form, BE SURE TO WRITE DOWN your confirmation number.  They can pull your request up on their computer that way.  And they help fill in the blanks if you hit a wrong button. The letter reads a little differently this year.

¿Dónde debes presentar tu trámite? Where should you present your stuff?

•El trámite lo podrás presentar en cualquier delegación del Instituto Nacional de Migración cercana a tu lugar de residencia. We all know where immigration is located, there is only one office in Merida.  Colon and 8th, if I'm not mistaken.                                                                
•Consulta la siguiente dirección: website for immigration offices.
http://www.inm.gob.mx/index.php?page/HORARIO_ATENCION


¿Cuáles son tus obligaciones? What are your obligations?

•Cumplir con los requisitos señalados, para la expedición del certificado de acreditación de legal estancia.To complete the stated requirements for the expediting of your certificate of legal residence.

¿Cuáles son tus derechos? What are your rights?

•Utilizar el certificado de acreditación de legal estancia, para los fines que te fueron solicitados por la autoridad distinta a la migratoria, excepto para trámites de matrimonio, divorcio y adopción. To use the certificate for legal residence, except it doesn't include permits for marriage, divorce or adoption....
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Here is the form! You got here by clicking on Formato...above
Formato migratorio para trámites de estancia migratory form for resident visas


Instructivo de llenado instructions for completion

* Campos obligatorios  obligatory fields

Verifique la información registrada  verify the registered information

* ¿Qué desea hacer?     This is the first selection you make from the dropdown box...

Seleccione. 
Extender la estancia  This is what you want to do, extend the stay
Obtener residencia definitiva en México
Realizar actividades diferentes a las autorizadasRegularizar su situación migratoria en México
Obtener protección del estado mexicanoCanje o reposición de forma migratoria
Cumplir con obligaciones migratorias
Permanecer fuera del país por temporalidades mayores a las señaladas en la LGP
Obtener permiso de salida y regreso
Obtener certificaciones o permisos para celebrar actos y contratos

* Especifique

Seleccione
Ampliación de estancia para turista
Prórroga de No inmigrante  Select this one.  Prolongation of non-immigrant status.
Refrendo de inmigrante

Datos del extranjero (Conforme a Pasaporte o Documento de Identidad) Foreigner's data. Must conform to your Passport or Identification Document)

* Apellido(s) Last name(s)

* Nombre(s) First Name

* Fecha de nacimiento dd/mm/aaaa  date of birth  day/month/four-digit-year

* Sexo
 Seleccione   Sex....
Mujer
Hombre

CURP  I don't have a CURP number....not a required field.

Estado civil actual
Seleccione
Casado    married
Divorciado   divorced
Soltero    single
Unión libre   free union
Viudo    widowed

Correo electrónico  your email address

Lugar de nacimiento  place of birth

País   country
Seleccione   choose from dropdown box
EstadosUnidos de America

Estado, Provincia o Departamento   State, Province or Department

* Nacionalidad actual    actual nationality, select from dropdown box
Seleccione
EstadosUnidos de America

* Nacionalidad anterior
Seleccione  Prior nationality??
...Estados Unidos de America

Pasaporte o Documento con el que se identifica el extranjero  Passport or Document that identifies the foreigner

Documento de identificación   Dropdown selection...
Seleccione
Pasaporte
Documento de identidad y viaje
Libreta de mar
Forma migratoria (con fotografía)  This is it. Migratory Form with photo. Your FM booklet number.
Otro

Número de documento  current FM booklet number

País de expedición
Seleccione   leave this as it is if you are using your fm booklet number

Fecha de expedición dd/mm/aaaa date of issue

Fecha de vencimiento dd/mm/aaaa    expiration date


Domicilio del extranjero en México   home address of foreigner in Mexico


Deberá anotar el nuevo domicilio en esta sección   You must notate new address (if applicable) in this section


* Calle     street


* Número exterior   house number


Número interior    interior number, if applicable, like "B" or something


* Colonia     Colonia


* Estado
Seleccione   dropdown offers YUCATÁN

* Delegacion o municipio  city or municipality, dropdown offers MÉRIDA
 Seleccione

* Código Postal  zip code

Teléfono particular (incluir clave de larga distancia)   home phone including long distance or cell phone...including long distance code

En su caso, persona autorizada para tramitar, oir o recibir notificaciones  Forget all this unless you have someone else to apply for on this tramite. 


Si usted quiere agregar personas autorizadas es necesario que lo efectue con el boton 'Agregar persona', de lo contrario los datos capturados en esta sección no seran guardados


Apellidos
Nombre(s)
Nacionalidad actual
Tipo de documento de identificación
 Seleccione
Pasaporte
Documento de identidad y viajeForma migratoria (con fotografía)Credencial de elector (IFE)Cédula profesionalCertificado de matrícula consularCarta de naturalizaciónCartilla de Servicio Militar NacionalOtro
Número de documento
CURP
Agregar persona

Comentarios

Si lo desea, puede agregar algún comentario a la solicitud.   If you would like to add any comments, you can do so in the space below. I put in my passport info...since they only asked for the FM info above....just a suggestion. You can leave it blank.

Guardar las solicitudes anteriores sin guardar la actual   SAVE

Agregar familiar u otro trámite   this is if there is another person involved. forget it.
Guardar 
Limpiar

¿Es correcta la información capturada?

Si   Is the information entered correct?
No
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At this point, when you click SAVE, or ENTER, it spits out a little box with a confirmation number. Write that number down.  If you have trouble printing, you will need that number for certain!  Once you save, it should offer you the option to print.  It's supposed to print the online app info and the letter.  

When you process this paperwork with INM, they give you a paper with your NUT number, your unique tramite number, as well as a password.  You need both those numbers to check the status of your FM process online.  The website to check the status is http://setram.inami.gob.mx:8080/solicitudes-web/seguimiento-tramite.html

Once you see FAVOR DE PRESENTARSE A UNA OFICINA DEL INM
call the office at the number the agent gives you after 1pm.  You make an appointment, pick up some photos at WalMart, infant size front and sides, and wait for your appointment date.  You'll get the last paper to take to the bank and pay your dues, and when you return to INM they fingerprint you and laminate your card right then and there.  Finished for another year.  If you want to change your status....you're on your own.  I'm just getting this part down!  I hope this was helpful for you.